. >> even keeping the country safe in this environment? >> of course we can keep the country safe on $400 billion a year. we don't need $600 billion. bill clinton was keeping the country safe on $400 billion. second, we have to means test the entitlements. there is nothing in the trust funds. that's confetti. we have to means test and go for the affluent recipient, reduce his benefits under medicare and social security and then finally we need to have some more revenue, but it's going to be hard to find. >> well, there's a lot of money sitting offshore that's not taxed. that's for another discussion. i want you to come back. i enjoy visiting with you. we will do it again. mr. stockman, thank you very much. that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts now. good evening, al. >> good evening, ed. >>> and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, the truth about the gop effort to kill obama care. it's not really about the health care website. it's about the entire law. today republican leaders made that clear. >>